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    outlaw17
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    I'm painting a 99 Ford truck tomorrow and it could be considered a normal every day job except this customer wants something a little different . The truck is black and what I would like to know is what I can do to make it look a little better with pearls and such. The guy does not want flames so this is not really a flame post but most of you guys have messed with pearls a stuff so I though I would ask all the pro's that frequent here . Standox has a paint called 'Monte Carlo Magic' that would be perfect because it is a multitone that looks black but changes to different colors when looked at different angles , the only problem is that it's $500.00 a quart up here in Canada and it would take 2 weeks to get so its out of the question .

    We use Sherwin Williams Ultra 7000 BC/CC at our shop and we have a mixing station so I do have access to pearls . What do you think I can do to make black a liitle more 'cool' looking ?

    I did another truck for someone else a couple months back and it was also black and the guy that owned it just started mixing pearls and stuff and I did'nt like the final result , so I dont want that to happen here . What we did was use a GM metallic black , added some blue and green powder sprayed it on and then in the first coat of clear added some red powder sprayed that and then just straight clear in the final coat , it looked good when you stuck your face right at the panel but from a distance it kinda looked a brownish sort of red . [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

    Anything from you guys would be great !

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    Yeah you gotta be careful with reds over black or you get that mud look.I like blues so a light coat of blue pearl owuld look nice,or even a few pearls mixed together but put don't make it a concentrated mix in the clear.

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    outlaw17
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    What I was thinking Rex was painting the truck black and then taking clear base and putting in some pearl , say blue , and then giving it a coat of that and then clearing it , what do you think that would turn out like ? Or what color of pearl would you suggest ?

    Another question I have is can I just spray clear base , I have never tried so I dont know what it will look like , my guess is once it flashes you shouldn't be able to tell . If I do that with a small amout of pearl in it , once it flashes , will it still look black until I clear it ?

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    Outlaw, like Rex i like the blues, but purple looks real kool over black. yes you can add the pearl to the clear base, thats how i do mine. just remember pearls come on very strong on black you can turn it purple or blue very easily, a little goes a very long way.

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    outlaw17
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    Thanks a bunch guys , this thing has a bunch of fibreglass accessories , so I think I'll test a mixture on some of these and see what I can make happen . If it doen't look good I can re-do them instead of the whole truck . Again , thanks for you input .

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    rmt1and1
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    Just another thought guys. I know that adding some purple pearl or blue to the basecoat in very small amounts enhances the black... and I mean small amounts. Also I've found that adding some black base in one or two coats of clear, then 1 pure coat of clear, really makes the black jump out. It gives it a really deep rich, distinctive hue. Jussst a thought.

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    TWISTED
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    Does it have to be a pearl job? I like candy black cherry over black. Very subtle but it doesn't look like a plain black truck.

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    Duleyman
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    I just sprayed a tank with black basecoat sherwin williams and added hok burble kandy concetrate to the clear along with Sherwins dry copper pearl added, then recleared, wow. very neat.

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    William dean
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    Hey guys, I just painted a 93 notch back Mustang with a Valspar black with red pearl in it with duponts (Blasberry) tribal flames and it came out awesome...so red pearl added right turns out ok...

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    outlaw17
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    Thanks a bunch for even more options , as it turned out I did not paint the truck today , we decided to do some experimenting to see what will look best , the customer owns a business across the street from us and he is in no real hurry , so I'm going to play for a few days and see what I can come up with . Any more input is welcome . Thanks .

    P.S. I gotta talk him into some flames though . [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

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