3 stage paint question

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NIGHTHAWK

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Hello everyone,
Just a question here. I'm interested in having my car sprayed in a 3 stage paint the oem midnight purple III found on the 2002 nissan skyline r34gtr.

The question I'm wondering is my car is a daily driver so its going to get rock chips, door dings ect..
how hard would it be to get these issues touched up at a later date? Or in the event I get into an accident with body damage having the replacement parts matched in color.

I understand its much more difficult then doing a simple base clear paint but I just love the color.


The other question I had was has anyone ever heard of a car almost completely covered in the 3m clear protective film?

As I mentioned my car is my daily driver year round, in the winter we get quite a bit of snow and they kill the roads in salt and sand.
Was hoping to protect my new paint job In the winters with this 3m protective film all over my car..
Wondering if thats possible or if another alternative is out there.

Thanks for your time!
 
Brian Dee

Brian Dee

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A tri stage paint job is more costly and time consuming to do ,than base coat clear coat. As you say it's going to get chips and scratches. It also much more difficult to do spot repair, if needed ,and has to be done by someone that really knows what their doing. But it can be done, for a price. Since it's a daily driver, why not go with a nock out bc/cc job,with that color you like. I think that will save you some $$$ down the road along with some grief. As for the vehicle mask you can use that to protect your paint. Innate has it. www.INNATE.com It's 8 mil,crystal clear,and again not cheap. A 6inch x 6ft roll is $50.00. Hang in there I'm sure Scott will give you some input on this to. He'll give you the straight goods on it.
 
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TAZ

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I totally agree with Brian! You sound a little gun-shy about doing the tri-stage thinking about the 'what-if's'.
The tri-stage is great if you don't plan on driving it too much! But it sounds like you will, so...
Definitely go for a great looking basecoat/clearcoats.
There are also some other excellent looking tri-stage type paints that would NOT be that hard to spot if you have a problem.
Check out the PPG "Liquid Crystals". There is a purple color that is excellent looking. Also check out the 2004 or so Honda (Motorcycle) Illusion Blue which changes from a blue to a purple (only 2 color change unlike other color shift paints). Both the crystals and the Illusion Blue are very expensive, but have a great 'different' look, but yet, if you have a problem they are not that hard to spot in (or even brush touch if you have a very small spot)
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I did a search for a midnight purple 2002 and I came up with a nissan that appeared to have a 'color shift' paint on it (not for sure if this was the color though). If you can add a pic or link to the Nissan color you are talking about, possibly one of us can recommend a close color to it
 
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NIGHTHAWK

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this is the colour.. mainly purple but changes to blue.. when sun hits it its goes a copper color.
I doubt there is anything else like it.

body shop said there is a base coat and then a top coat with 2 pearls and a crap load of chamelion or something. its quite expensive as well.

what about having them spray a few extra coats of clear over it so the rock chips and dings can be clay bared and what not out..

thanks for the link on the clear film..

thanks for the help guys!
 
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TAZ

Guest
Yep, I would say that's a color shift paint, or at least it's very close to it.
Normally you spray a black basecoat with the color shift paint over it.

The pics I attached is a job I did about 5 years ago. You can see the blue, purple, copper color.
Actually this is pretty easy to spray and easy to spot in.
Expensive though. I personally like the PPG brand. HOK is cheaper, but it seems to be a little washed out.
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If you don't want as much 'color change' you should check out the Illusion Blue I mentioned above. This is a excellent looking blue/purple color like no other.
You can buy a 'quart kit' including everything you need for about $800. You'll need about 2, possibly 3 quarts though. You HAVE TO spray a black sealer under this though. Otherwise it will not cover and will not do the color shift correctly.
 
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Maylar

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My local paint jobber is a BASF dealer, so I'm very partial to Glasurit and the American BASF brand R-M. Cut my painting teeth on R-M laquers in the 70's and have been using their paints ever since. I believe R-M has the OEM color shift paints covered in their Carizzma line, along with candies and pearls and assorted special effects stuff. I know that the 3 stage chameleon (sp) paints are in the range of $900 per quart (ouch). Wish I could afford to experiment with them, but...

BTW if you ever need a single stage black urethane, check out Glasso's 22 line black - it'll blow you away.

As to the original poster's question, yes multi stage paints are a biatch to repair - you typically need to paint an entire panel. I've never seen the protective film you mention, but I have heard about the new 'scratch resistant' clears that some high end vehicles are using. It softens in hot sunlight and sorta flows back on itself to fill in light scratches. Might be worth investigating if you're spending that kind of dough on a custom paint job.
 
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