Dupont Paint Products ??????

[Jim]

My paint guy will get me HOK but,he carries Dupont.He's been very good to me.I'm planning on 2003 Torch red.It looks like the brightest red in the book.I've been looking at the Dupont tech sheets and Chromabase looks easy enough but,what clear would you guys suggest?I want the nicest clear they offer but,I'm spraying in the garage and don't have alot of airflow.Is thier clear hard to get right under my conditions or will I be alright?Also, I don't have alot of experiance and have only used HOK but,it always came out with no problems

 

[groovesdown]

Jim - Yer right. That Dupont torch red is very bright. I just finished putting torch red flames over Dupont black base. In the past I've used their V7500S Multi-use Chromaclear and hand buffed. I never had any problems with it (except the high price)but this time I went with PPG 2021 because they quit making the chromaclear I was using. Now they have a 7900 Multi-use chroma clear. I dont know what the difference is but I bet the EPA has something to do with it. The stuff I was using was very toxic. I don't know much about paint but what I've learned is that if you're doing BC/CC and keep all your paint components in that system you can put almost any clear on top and be o.k. I'm sure some of these other more experienced guys can nail it down for ya.

Groovesdown

 

[Jim]

Groovesdown,We just talked about that yesterday,he said the only differance with the 7900 is it has less solids,making it cheaper to use.As far as mixing product brands,If that's the case,he does have some HOK UFC-35 on the shelf I'd like to use.thanks,Jim

 

[Jim]

My paint man showed me the torch red before he mixed it,After the red ,it should have bugandy and a dull orange added to make the torch red,I decided not to have the other colors added to it,it's redder than the torch red, man is it nice.$140.00 a quart but,it's brighter than any red I have ever seen.After the base filler added with no other colors,it was $299 a gallon.I went with the Dupont 7600 clear.I couldn't wait so, I sprayed the underside of the deck lid today,pretty nice but,you gotta really turn up the fluid knob for that clear to flow,got some peel.Dries really fast,Good for bugs and dust.

 

[tcannon]

Jim, you might want to check out the Dupont Nason Ful-Base. I shot their torch red not long ago, matched the GM chip, about $35 per qt. Also, the Nason 496 Select clear works really good at about $75 gal w/ a qt of cat. The Nason is kinda like PPG's Omni line, except the Nason seems to be a little better in quality, especially the clear. There's no comparison in gloss or shrinkage between the Nason and Omni on what I've shot. Best of luck, TC.

 

[Jim]

TC,Since I never shot Dupont before,I did look at the Nason line,I thought it was on the cheaper side and was afraid,I wouldn't get as nice of a job.I do want to try it some time though,the price is right.I got the whole car shot today in pieces,turned out pretty damn good for a rookie in a garage on a humid 90 degree day.That 7600 clear dries quick and lays down fairly easy,I'll see how it sands and buffs out in a couple days.

 

[groovesdown]

Jim, You using the 7600 or the 7900? I couldn't find any of the 7600. My paint guy said it was unavailable and the 7900 took it's place. As for the 7900 being lower solids content-Bones FX said HOK did the same thing with their clear, went from 50% to 35%, and he said he didn't like it I believe he said because of the added work involved when flattening out over artwork. I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference due to my lack of experience. However, anyone who is expert in his craft will notice subtle differences. Anyway Bones said he switched to a PPG clear. I'm not sure but I think it is the Global, same as Scott uses. I'm sure that the HOK, Dupont, and the PPG clears are all good but paint guys that reach the level those guys are at have their own reasons for picking one over the other. Could be reasons to do with production factors. As for me, I don't get the oportunity to paint that much but when I do I don't care if it takes longer or pay a little more, I want the best possible finish I can get and at my level of painting skills I need all the advantages I can get. Maybe someday I'll be able to pick up on those subtle differences but for now I'll listen to guys like Scott, Bones, Rex, and many of the other guys here that really know what they're talking about. If you can post some pictures when you're done, I would like to see them. Good luck with it.

Groovesdown

 

[Jim]

Groovesdown,I got the 7600,my paint guy still has some.He tried to give me something else but,I told him I had to work the next two days and would'nt be able to wetsand and buff it til then.I don't remember if it was the 7900 but he said it had to be buffed in 24hrs or it was real hard to work with.
I didn't ask but,My guess would be,more solids,more actual clear,better depth with less coats.Kinda like buying good thick paint v/s watered down stuff.My guess anyway.

This guy's a jobber but,he's almost warehouse he has so much stuff on hand.I hope he has more,I almost used the whole gallon.4 to 1 with hardly any reducer goes fast.I really need to get an HVLP gun!

I will get some pictures up.with all the questions I asked I'll catch he** from Rex and Stinkie.if I don't.I have a few touch ups I'd like to do (sweat drops and a big rub in the quarter)and put the doors and fenders back on,then I'll get some.Jim

 

[Jim]

The 7600 I got isHyper-cure HC7600S not the old stuff you were talking about,sorry.Funny thing,I painted the car with the torch red without the other colors added.My car is orange in certain light and red in other light.from far away,it looks red.It was shocking at first but,now I think it's pretty cool.