Ford mustang E9 Laser red

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2000MustangGT

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> comments: Hi im Just curious . I though that on the new ford mustangs
the
Paintjob is a tri coat candy not a 2 stage candy? It says in the
brochure
laser red tinted clearcoat but isnt it a gold copperish salmon color as
the
base then a translucent red over that than on top of that the final
clear?
so in total a 3 stage? OR is it the gold basecoat and the red candy
MIXED
WITH the clearcoat making it only a 2 stage? Do you know this for sure?
Who
at ford may i contact to find out their painting procedure 100 percent?
I
have a 2000 mustang GT laser red e9 and its a nightmare trying to find
a
bodyshop that is confident to repait it. I had a scratch i got it
repaitned
and the bodyshop made it more of a darker deeper red compared to the
spot
that was from the factory. I hate it!
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> Get back?
> your friend Jeff
 
T

TAZ

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Hello Jeff,
From the factory, E9 comes as a two stage. It is basically a red metallic base with a tinted clearcoat (hence the tinted red clearcoat in the sticker color name). One of the biggest problems that they are having with the E9, is that the tinted red clearcoat will wear thin (since their is no true clearcoat protection), especially down in climates like in Florida, thus making your paint look lighter and lighter through the months.

You may have noticed that some E9 Mustangs in your area look different shades than yours.

I was the first around our area to spray E9 when it first came out (panel painted a rear bumper).
So anyway, to do a correct aftermaket E9 job, it should be 3 staged. Base would be the red metallic, then the transparent red, then clearcoat. You should have a true clearcoat as a topcoat.

PPG has a formula for a 2 stage which is very close to the three stage, but it must be blended (not panel painted). Though it is very close, it is a tad bit darker.

I would guess that the body shop simple put on a 2 stage color that was "close" to E9.

I feel that If they used the PPG formula for 2 stage, that you would have been happy with it. It is very transparent, so it has the depth of the true factory E9, so the base (or sealer) must be consistent. Meaning that the complete car must be one color (light red-gray sealer is the best).

To further confuse you
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They could have also attempted to do a three stage, and put too many coats on which would darken the color.
Alot of the above is unnecessary information sine you just had it appears you only had the panel spotted, but anyway, it will give you some info on what E9 is about.

Hope this helps you!
Scott
 
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2000MustangGT

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Hey great infromation! I see you got a saleen supercharged that is a HUGE step up from the trans am. How do you like it? Geez it must be nice.

Hey your information on the e9 is awesome but id like to know one thing. Does it pay to sell my car for a 2002 zinc yellow paint code b7 just cause the e9 is such a target. i mean i park my laser red anywhere and sometimes i come back and see key scratches on it. Maybe its cuase i keep it to clean and shiny? How can i find a bodyshop here i can trust to repaint the e9 if it god forbid needs a repaint?

Get back your friend always

jeff
 
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2000MustangGT

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By the way I HAVE seen some e9 laser reds that are different shades. I pesoanlly LOOOOOVEEE LOVE LOVE IT when the shade is taking on a light pinkish red glow. i LOVE THAT i dont like it when its a darker cherryish red. Is there anyway to tell the paint shop that if they are going to not get the shade exactly liek factory is there a way to tell them at least to make it more lighter than more darker. Cause if i had a choice id rather it be mismatched in a lighter shade than a darker one like htis bitcher did to mine.PS is there something i can do to find out how many coats of base and candy ford uses from factory? I love the factory shade of e9.Would the factory shade of e9 alsways most likley be a lighter shade than any 3 stage repaint? Get back

jeff
 
T

TAZ

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Hey Jeff,
I'd keep the car you have. You'd probably take a big hit on it($$ wise) if your traded it in just for another color.

It would almost be impossible to tell a painter or body shop the exact shade you wanted, though they could probably get it close. To many variables are involved when spraying. One painters "spray coat" may be heavier then another painters spray coat. Gun pressure (among other variables) also make a difference.

I'd check out one of the local Ford dealerships. Possibly you could get it covered under warranty if you show them that the red clearcoat is getting thin.
 
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