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hrlymnsss
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i could use some input anyt
hing would help
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sw engineering
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any pearl/clear mixture would work with a kameleon base. Or maybe just dusting the outline of flames with a kandy/clear...that would look cool.
kameleons are tuff pick colors for because of the flip/flop effect...
If I'm not sure about a color combo when using expensive paint (or really expensive like kameleons) I'll do something small first like a mailbox. Then the customer has something tangible to look at and you can get more input from them as to what they would like to see. Plus you can have pretty cool samples laying around instead of pictures, we all know pictures don't do justice on custom paint jobs.
Anyways something to think about.
...how about this ....Kameleon Cyan to Purple(KF2) base with Green to Purple(KF4) flames
...hmmmmm....i think I have a new mailbox candidate
kameleons are tuff pick colors for because of the flip/flop effect...
If I'm not sure about a color combo when using expensive paint (or really expensive like kameleons) I'll do something small first like a mailbox. Then the customer has something tangible to look at and you can get more input from them as to what they would like to see. Plus you can have pretty cool samples laying around instead of pictures, we all know pictures don't do justice on custom paint jobs.
Anyways something to think about.
...how about this ....Kameleon Cyan to Purple(KF2) base with Green to Purple(KF4) flames
...hmmmmm....i think I have a new mailbox candidate
My first pick would have been a contrasting Kamelion,but these guys have some great ideas too.You can't beat test panels and I'll usually do some different variations of things over a color the person picks as a base.I've got a 1ftX2ft chunk of steel that needs stripped again from playing.I'd heave it but it's about 14 guage plate and holds up so well to stripping and sanding so I hate to ditch it.It's big enough to step out about 5 coats of candy and still have room for a few other options for them to pick fromUnless you're dealing wth a really transparent color,it takes about an ounce of sealer,base or clear to cover the whole thing so I figure it's worth it to get the job if I don't have a finished example to show them.
I dont think over reducing it over its self is going to do what you think it will. Once you reach peak coverage thats as dark as it will go over reducing that same kamelion might "lighten "it a bit but i think all you are going to end up with is a tape edge and wasting some pretty expensive paint.I have seen graphics with an over reduced solution of kamelion sprayed over silvers for a real nice color shifting ghosting effect. Kamelions are usally sprayed over a black base coat , i think in order for it to work like you want you would have to spray the flames completly black then use the over reduced kamelion over it to give it i diffrent kamelion (ghosting )effect or spray less on the base then a coat or two more on the flames, like i said this stuff is pretty expensive to be fooling around with ($250 a pint )
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sw engineering
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I had another thought for ghost flames over a Kameleon...
take the same base kameleon color and cut it with inner-clear and over reduce it. This will darken it a little and slow down the color change compaired to the straight base. Or as the kameleon tech sheet says:
or at least I think it would
take the same base kameleon color and cut it with inner-clear and over reduce it. This will darken it a little and slow down the color change compaired to the straight base. Or as the kameleon tech sheet says:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...this effect would provide true ghost flames.
or at least I think it would
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hrlymnsss
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hey guys thanx for all the input into my question on the ghost flames i know at one time hok sold an iredesence how about this for a base for the flames or between coats a light dusting
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Deacon Blues
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For my flame job I chose a color that was as close as I could find to one of the "major" chameleon colors (the colors that are predominant). Then I laid on a really fine coat of the chameleon paint again after I'd shot the flame color, which made the flames change color less than the "base". It worked really well; under streetlights the flames are really subtle, but as soon as you get the bike into sunshine, they really show up.
The next one I do, I'm going to shoot different-color primer coats for the flamework, and then strip the masking off and layer the chemeleon over both. There should be enough color showing thru to show the flames, but they'll be nice and subtle due to the chameleon topcoat.
The next one I do, I'm going to shoot different-color primer coats for the flamework, and then strip the masking off and layer the chemeleon over both. There should be enough color showing thru to show the flames, but they'll be nice and subtle due to the chameleon topcoat.