HOK Kandy Coat finish

[Ski_trick]

How does the Kandy Coat paint spray, can an novice sprayer spray this? I am using a Devilbiss finishline 2 gravity HVLP.
I was told by my local paint shop that if you put several coats of clear on you get the same effect as a Kandy coat finish.

Thanks for any info.

 

[TAZ]

You definately need a good gun setup to spray candy.

Although a novice can spray candy, it's pretty risky. If you make a mistake, the complete job will have to be redone or at least blended (3 staged) and recleared.

Basically, candy is just a tinted clearcoat. So it does spray like a clear.

 

[DDG]

You can help yourself with a candy job by tinting
the base with your candy color.
It will help with hiding streaks and blotches.
And as always, spray a test panel.
Dirt

 

[Jim]

Scott,what would a red toner in the clear look like over a red?I'd like something a little better than just a straight but. candy may be a little much for my first car job.

 

[DDG]

Red candy over straight red may not show up too well. But over a red metallic would have depth like a candy. I don't know the color of base you're thinking, but over say a pinkish or rust color red would look good. If you get a chance to see a HOK color book they show all their candies over their 12 metallic bases.
Candy apple red looks good over the silver as well as the cinder red base. The cinder red being easier to spray because the red base hides alot.
Streaking or blotches that is. Another bonus shooting over a red metallic is faster coverage for color.
Dirt

 

[DDG]

Another thing, if you want an easy solution to candies is try HOK Kandy Base Coats.
Simply spray your base color then 3 coats of the KBC. It goes on just like any other paint and touch ups are incredibly easy to do.
They are a candy/metallic mixture.
Super easy to use.
Dirt

 

[Jim]

Hey Dirt,I wanted to spray candy but have decided it's probably not a good choice for my first big job.so....I was wondering if I sprayed a red base and instead of straight clear,added some red toner in it.Would it come out any nicer?Would it make it look better or what would the differance be?

 

[ezrider]

Jim, by doing that you would be making your own version of a Candy, and you still might run into stripping or blotching problems. Like DDG said take a look at the HOK Kandy base coats, they spray just like a base coat with almost the same look as a candy, just not quite as deep looking as a Urethane Candy paint job. Hope this helps with out discouraging.

 

[DDG]

Jim, I just reread an article about candies.
If you go with the KBC's, you can spray urethane candy over them too.
For example, if you want candy apple red, base with KBC apple red, then spray two or three coats
of catalyzed apple red candy over that.
You should end up with about the same level of depth. It will be easier than going with a straight candy over a metallic base.
Try a test panel and figure out what you like.
I don't know your skill level but you might find it easier than you thought.
Good luck,
Dirt

 

[Jim]

I wonder if I could sand and dust coat the (HOK)candy base ,then clear it like the regular base.I did it on my bike with black and came out great.I know pearls and mettalics your not suppose to sand.I think my biggest problem/worry is proper gun set up.Base is cool but,I get a bit of peel in my clear,maybe I go a little too thin or don't get it to atomize enough.I think I'll play with it awhile and see what I can come up with.I have to get the body finished first,It's already the end of Dec,better get busy.thanks again!

 

[DDG]

I wouldn't do that. I'd spray and clear then sand the clear if orange peel is there.
With the candy, metallic mix it may affect color.
Buy a couple of oz. from Coast Airbrush and try it on a panel. It's the safest way to go if you're not sure.
Dirt

 

[DDG]

With your peel problem, either you're too close,
moving too slow, both of these two result in too much paint volume, not enough air pressure, reducer/paint ratio isn't right.
With most clears you can over reduce the final clear about 10% to get a "flow coat", but some experimentation is needed.
Give some of these a try and keep spraying, you'll get eventually.
Hope this all helps you.
Dirt