Kandy flames

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I just joined today and glad I found the site...I have a question for all you paint gurus...

I was using Diamont paint.....black base, silver met flames, blue tinted clear, clear...

I just painted my first full bike flame job on a Harley. It was a black base coat with a imitated Kandy blue flame. I painted the flames silver, unmasked and painted a tinted blue clear over everything...It came out great. The flame lines were excellent with no edge upon final clear...

There was a huge problem, the tinted blue turned the black to an ugly purple in the sunlight...I cant figure out what to do to get the effect of the blue flames with out a huge build at the edge of flames.

I thought redo and use the blue clear on just the flame but thats going to be 3 coats with a huge edge after I clear the whole part and lots of wetsanding. My other thought was to spray the blue, then clear, then sand, lay down the flames backwards and paint the black base, reclear... Any suggestions?

 

[TWISTED]

What color are you hoping to end up with?
If you are looking for a deep blue with the fake candy blue flames you may want to try a blue base instead of black.
Actually a very deep blue will look purple in different lighing

 

[gpracer15]

Originally posted by TWISTED:
What color are you hoping to end up with?
If you are looking for a deep blue with the fake candy blue flames you may want to try a blue base instead of black.
Actually a very deep blue will look purple in different lighing

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">basically what I was doing was a black bike with blue candy flames. the flames were silver metalic....then I sprayed over complete part with the blue tinted clear and it made the black turn purple in the sunlight...an ungly purple! So the only way I know to do this with out that happening is to redo the black, spray silver flames, then blue clear just the flames, unmask and clear all...but this will leave a huge edge on the flame area...not what I want.

 

[TAZ]

Well...you could always sand the parts, and mask up the flames, then spray a coat of black over the base color. Then reclear the parts.Still alot of work though.

 

[gpracer15]

Originally posted by Scott F:
Well...you could always sand the parts, and mask up the flames, then spray a coat of black over the base color. Then reclear the parts.Still alot of work though.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I considered that but since I would be taping up the flames I was concerned about the tips comming out good since I would have to trim the tips out with a razor blade....Im just sanding it down a bit and going to go with black with silver met flames, thats what the guy insists on...I was just looking for advice, thanks

 

[tooter]

GP RACER U SAID THAT WAS USING DIAMONT WHAT KIND DID U PUT IN THE CLEAR AND WHAT KIND OF CLEAR R U USING?

 

[gpracer15]

Originally posted by tooter:
GP RACER U SAID THAT WAS USING DIAMONT WHAT KIND DID U PUT IN THE CLEAR AND WHAT KIND OF CLEAR R U USING?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I believe it was Sem's dye and the clear is 9100 I think its the quick drying clear not 9200.

Im not too familiar with the #'s of the Diamont stuff. I will check tonight...The clear is suppose to be cured for sanding in 5 hours...

I shot a test panel the other night, I even used less dye (weaker) and the very first coat shaded the black slightly into a purple shade...the more coats the more it turns...I wouldnt expect that over black....Its like a 92 Cavilier purple....ugly...lol..

Next time I will just lay the blue over the flames then unmask and clear over everything, wet sand to remover the edges and reclear if necessary till its smooth..then wet sand again and buff....

 

[gpracer15]

Diamont 5100 fast dry clear...