masking paper with adhesive backing

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flowb417

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I'm trying to find out the brand of masking paper that has an adhesive backing to it. It saves a lot of time when taping off flames. All you have to do is out line your flames, lay this paper on, then exacto knife on top of your flame tape. Makes it a lot faster. Does anyone know who makes this stuff? Please help me obi wan kenobi...you're my only hope!
 

ezrider

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i believe the product your looking for is Transferit transfer tape. use extreme caution when masking this way it is very easy to cut through both the transfer tape and your fine line tape out line and ruin what ever work you have already done underneath
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shaunboy

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FLOWB417, MOST BRANDS MAKE ADHESIVE MASKING LIKE THIS, BUT NOT FOR SMALL AREAS .
IT IS USED FOR BOATS ,TRUCKS AND CAR BODIES.
THINK THAT MASKING OUT FLAMES BY HAND WITH TAPE WILL BE MUCH EASIER THAN TRYING TO CUT THROUGH WITH A RAZOR BLADE
 

Jim

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I've been useing 1/8 blue fineline then putting 1 1/2 regular 3M masking tape over that,then cutting on the fineline,Is there an easier way?
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TAZ

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I personally use "Automask". It's semi transparent and works great over the blue 3M tape. You can buy it in different widths. I use 6" for motorcycles. Like ezrider said, be careful cutting this stuff. Even though it cuts very easy, you have to make sure you do not cut into the paint.

But right now I am using 1/16" to do my outlines so I am back to using tape to mask up.
 

rex

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Scott,Ezrider and Shaunboy,you guys had any experience with frisket paper?I hear it's popular in the airbrush world and wonder if it'll hold up to our paint.
 
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TAZ

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Haven't used frisket paper. I had heard that
it doesn't work that good with certain basecoats. It leaves adhesive residue or something like that.

You can buy the Automask that I was talking about above from Coastairbrush.
Here is a direct link to it
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I believe this is what you see on the Jesse James show. Works great! Easy to cut through.
 

ezrider

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Rex, i have used it, the only problem was it left a lot of adhesive behind. it cleaned up nice with a little rubbing alchahol. it worked real nice for the stars on a red , wtite and blue helmet i did 2 weeks ago. if i could figure out how to post pictures i would show a picture
 
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flowb417

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Thanks for everyone's help. The automask was exactly what i was looking for.
 
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Mac_Muz

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I used but did not care for frisket... It was hard to handle, as you must remove the backing to apply it after the mask is cut, and it tends to grab and distort some doing this.

I saw a Jessie James bit on tv and if automask was it, that will be what I try to get for any next time... It seemed you could see enought thru it to cut what you do, or can apply and then draw on it. Frisket won't let you do that...

EZ I would like to se the pics of that helmet. maybe you can do what I did, and make a free photo album at Yahoo. Mac mac_muz15@hotmail.com
 

ezrider

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Mac, whats up? hows the weather up there? pretty sticky here in CT. Here is that address you wanted, i over look the obvious alot. ill give you my recipe, i think it is very simular to yours if i am not mistaken
HOK white base coat
HOK Snow white pearl (base coat)
HOK Majic blue pearl ( base coat )
HOK Red pearl (base coat )
HOK Process blue and Cardinal red (stripping enamels)
Finish it off with 5 coats of clear
This helmet i did for my brother in law to match his companies name, All American Companies

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/joe_easyrider97/lst?.dir=/Stars+and+stripes&viev=t
 

rex

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EZ,I can't get to the pictures so I'll try later to see if it's a prob.You guys talked me into trying the Automask.Looks alot easier than cutting tape.

Hey Mac,how's the scooter?We've gotten so much rain (3 weeks every damn day) mine's getting painted.I have the front fender derivited,so hopefully I can have it in epoxy and the rest of the bike tore down Sat.I popped it off at work the other day and guess what-no fender on the way home and rain.Welcome to sunny Florida,eh?It worked out good because my 100 yard driveway gets soft during this crap.Sliding around doesn't bother me,but those Avons shure ain't knobbies
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ezrider

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Rex, sorry i adjusted the settings to public you should be good to go now. as far as the auto mask i ordered a roll tonight my self, every one is raving about this stuff, figure id give it a try .Those Avons sure smoke nice though.
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TAZ

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Great job on the helmet EZ
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You'll like the automask Rex!
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If you call them, they will ship it UPS and should be there in a about 4 days. I ordered the 6"

Right now I'm back to the "old school" tape method since I am using 1/16" to do the layout. It's green and too thin to use the automask. 90% chance I won't hit the tape with the ole' razor
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I'll tell you what though, I absolutely like using 1/16" tape to do layouts (wish it was a bright color though). Takes a little while to get used to since it is a little squirley to work with!
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rex

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Ah yes,much better buddy.Had to take the scooter for one last jaunt and just got back.Son of a bitch if I ain't rode her in a week and got my monthly shower on the way back
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I like the bean bucket,your talents definately surpass mine.I know what you mean about the Avons.I had to smoke her up at Mertyle Beach to get things going (like 1/2 a new tire) and she was still soft 4 hours and 2 gravel scrapings later.I'll have to download the pix and post them,I was really impressed with the 40 ft mark second left on 17 in front of the hotel-my buddy behind me with a badder Softail freaked out.Beware the VenomX,they get excelent traction,but they leave a serious cloud when smoked and take a real long time to get normal along with rapid rubber loss.

Scott,thanx and I know what you mean about the 1/16".The squirreliness doesn't bother me as bad as all the outlining to guarrantee no leaks.I'm getting a roll of Norton 1/8" blue to guinee pig mine with,and of coarse the Automask.I'll let you guys know how the Norton is.
 
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TAZ

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Rex,
Let us know how you like the Norton 1/8".
Are you ordering it online or local? The place I get my supplies from doesn't carry it.
 

Stretch

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That automask paper sounds a lot like Transfer Paper that's used in the signmaking industry. I've used it quite often with vinyl stickers. Not sure about the price, but may be an option. If I find any info I'll post it. I've found that different industries will use an almost identical product but with different names and different prices. This may or may not be the case?

Just my 2¢-Stretch
 
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TAZ

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Stretch,
I believe you are correct. I think the "Automask" is the same type of adhesive paper that they use on vinyl stickers. I'm sure different companies would also call it different names.
Good observation
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If you do have any other info, let us know.
 
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Mac_Muz

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Hi guys, I come here often to read, but don't say much... I don't know much, so leave most saying to those that do....

I did use the film though and it was ok sorta... I did what I needed to do with it... but I think Automask looks better....

My paint seeped under the stars (blue got under the masked stars) So I learned to shoot clear on the films after that when I was ready for doing red, and the clear sealed the masking.

That left pretty tall red though, but 6 coats of clear fixed that as the top coat.

I learned about buffing out after that and one big weasle hair..remember the cats? The wease is a gray purrrrrsian. Well he is just to curious about things and he managed to become one with the paint... One of the last clears... but what the hay.... I am thinking of super gluing him to the head lamp anyway... What better stuffed toy, as he is really anitmated....

That helmet looks very much like my colors, but I don't know what HOK means. And a great job. I can see fluresent lights in the reflections, and no cat hairs!

The weather is horrid.... need I say more...

I got busted on my bike by the Coast Guard for not wearing a life jacket!....

And the weather high lite of the year for me happened 3 Friday's back when I was working in a closed boat shop and was struck by lightning! That sucks to put it mildly!

As I write hail begins.... got git off line ..bye bye...Mac
 
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