Need suggestions on Reverse Ghost Rally Stripes? (Shadow effect)

[pony]

Hello guys,

I'm a non painter trying to gather info for a friend who is helping me on a painting project. I'm working with a dark red/burgandy metallic base (no way to change this variable). I want a darker shadowed rally stripe(s) on the vehicle. Would like a black or dark affect without killing the red base; kind of like a very light ultra fine black metal flake in the base color making it look slightly darker with a hint of black.

Ordered a small amount of black pearl candy dry pigment on a knee jerk idea and toying with the thought of either mixing black pearl dry in with base, mixing dry with reducer and lightly covering base, or mixing dry with clear as mid coat. Thinking any of these ways may give me just a very light gray appearance. Mixing black pigment in a midcoat clear looked good on a test panel straight on, but look turd brown at an angle.

Would like to have a "disappearing black rally" with a little sparkle (like the burgandy basecoat). Is any of these possible? Would I be better off utilizing something else to acheive this type of appearance without going lighter OR utilizing other pearl/candy colors of blues, golds, etc. ANY suggestions/idea's will be appreciated.

Sorry about the ramblings of a unskilled person in this area.

 

[TAZ]

Hmmmm, I would suggest just adding a tad bit of black to the paint. This would give it a shadowed look.
You mentioned you tried adding black. Possibly you added too much and it turned brown on you.

--Another way would be just to dust a very over reduced coat of black over the red. Be sure and use interclear with this mixed with the black. Probably about 95% interclear and 5% black.
--Order a quart of House of Kolor "Black Diamond" and spray a coat of that over the black. This will probably turn the red a little darker, plus give it some blackish sparkles.
--Add a coat of candy red over the base red.

Just some ideas off the top of my head at 6Am this morning.

 

[pony]

Hmmmm, I would suggest just adding a tad bit of black to the paint. This would give it a shadowed look.
You mentioned you tried adding black. Possibly you added too much and it turned brown on you.

--Another way would be just to dust a very over reduced coat of black over the red. Be sure and use interclear with this mixed with the black. Probably about 95% interclear and 5% black.
--Order a quart of House of Kolor "Black Diamond" and spray a coat of that over the black. This will probably turn the red a little darker, plus give it some blackish sparkles.
--Add a coat of candy red over the base red.

Just some ideas off the top of my head at 6Am this morning.

Thanks for the info. Tried mixing the dry black pearl in both the clear and mid coat with similar results; too light, silvery gray. May try adding more, but afraid of masking base. May also try suggestion of adding black to the base or the dry black pearl directly to the base. Thanks for the support.

 

[TAZ]

I think just adding just a tad bit of black into the original base color might give you your best results for ghost stripes.
Once you add some black in a different container, take your paint stick and dip it in the original base color, then immediately dip it 1/2 way into the NEW color you just added black to. This will show you the "wet on wet" difference.

 

[pony]

I think just adding just a tad bit of black into the original base color might give you your best results for ghost stripes.
Once you add some black in a different container, take your paint stick and dip it in the original base color, then immediately dip it 1/2 way into the NEW color you just added black to. This will show you the "wet on wet" difference.

Thanks again. The first attempt described above wasn't ugly and didnt' show the "brown" decribed earlier, but just wasn't what I was looking for. Do you think utilizing the black pearl dry pigment (mica solids not dye) will work or just a standard black paint pigment? May try both for sh..s and grins.