paint booths...

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kustomrodder

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Hey fellas,(and ladies),
Any ideas on paint booths.Right now I go out and rent one for about $50.00 whenever I get a job too big to do at home.I'd like to convert my garage so that I can work more from home.
What will I need to do in order to make my garage a safe spraying environment??Thanx a bunch...
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Brushman

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Painting in your garage is always a dangerous undertaking. If you have a gas water, even more danger. What I did is I took some
2" x 2"'s and screwed them to the ceiling and then stapled plastic and let it hang to the floor.
I came out form the wall, that has a window, about 8' and about 15' feet form my big door. This gave me enough room to do motorcycle parts. I but a fan in the window with some filters and it seems to work well. When I'm done I just roll up the plastic and fasten it to the 2x2's. This way its out of the way when I'm not painting and easy to unroll for another job. It seem to contain the fumes in that area pretty well as the fan draws them out the window.
 
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Gunner

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I've got my own plan for creating a booth. I have no water heater in my garage to worry about.
I bought a 25'x100' roll of 6 mil poly and some adhesive. I'm going to cut about a 10'x15' rectangle for the 'ceiling' and then 9' high sections to act as the 'walls'. I'll glue them all up in a rectangle, leaving a good section of one corner open for a way in.
I've got a 20" box fan and two sets of filters duct taped to it. This will go in a matching hole I've cut in one of the walls with the fan blowing in for postive pressure. The filters and positive pressure will help minimize particles that might land on the paint.
Then I'll take about a 2'x10' section of poly, roll it and glue it into a 10' long tube, one end of which I'll glue to the 'booth'. The other end will go out the garage door, providing an exhaust port.
Finally, I've got hooks in the ceiling of my garage and some that I will glue to the 'ceiling' of the booth. When I want to spray, I sweep and wet down the floor, hang the 'booth' from the ceiling, duct tape the fan in place, duct tape the 'walls' to the garage floor and I'm ready to go. When I'm done, I'll take the whole thing down, fold it up, and put it away.

I'll let you know how it works out.

Gunner
 
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gpracer15

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Thats about what I did in the beginning. I hung plastic I bought at walmart in about the same dimensions for the walls, some thinner cheaper platic in the ceiling. I used drywall screws and large washers to attach the plastic to the joist or you can hold it up using 1x4's...

Box fan in window and cut the opposite end and duct tapped filters on...it worked but now I enclosed the ceiling with sheet rock and built a wall with a 4' door....
 
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Scott M

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Stay away from box fans as they lose efficiency on a tight booth. My booth is expandable by panels, positive pressure with a furnace fan, and has lighting standoffs. Its made from 1/2" EMT conduit with 6 mil plastic, and duct tape. Corners are welded with a Mig welder with cheap picture frame clamps holding the panels while welding.
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Envious Interiors

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ive been spraying cars in my 3rd bay in my garage. i had a really neat setup for it. it cost me about 150 bucks, but it worked awesome. i built frames out of 2x4s, and then staples and duct taped my 6mil plastic to the outside. then, i built exhaust vents with 2x4s and plastic and ran fans in them with filters on the outside, and had a great setup for air. i also put fans at the garage door to suck all of the dust away from the car, u can build a smaller version of this for doing motorcycle parts. i also used 24 inch box fans, 4 of them should do nice with a bunch of filters, like 4 for 4 bucks at walmart. good luck
 
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flamethrower

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I know guys use them, but to answer your question... NO! You can't trust them. So, if you are using a non-explosion proof fan, be aware of the hazards associated with you decision.

As a sidenote - If you use a non-approved system for heat and ventilation in a paintbooth (or anywhere else in your home) your insurance will more than likely leave you high and dry if you have a fire (whether the fire was caused by the non approved system or not.)

I've done a lot of checking for my own booth and I have found a heat & ventilation system that is approved, explosion proof, & only around $1100 + ductwork.

I know a grand or more is alot, but my house is worth $390K. I ain't gonna risk it because I didn't want to spend a little extra to do the job right.

I'm sure there are thousands of ways to heat & ventilate, but before you spend anything on it, do your research and find out all of the details. Then make an educated decision. We'd all love to hear your choice. That's what this board is all about. Sharing info on saving money and doing things better is the key!

Take care
 
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Stretch

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I've done about the same thing everyone here has said. I went an extra step and put some loops in the ceiling and ran rope down one side of the plastic and up the other side through the loops and over to the wall. I taped a 2" pvc tube to the bottom of the plastic. When I'm done painting I simply pull the rope and it pulls the wall up. It's been great and allows me to use all of my garage. It's worked out very well so far.

-Stretch
 
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Jim

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[ QUOTE ]
As a sidenote - If you use a non-approved system for heat and ventilation in a paintbooth (or anywhere else in your home) your insurance will more than likely leave you high and dry if you have a fire (whether the fire was caused by the non approved system or not.)

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Hey FT,I would think if anything from your booth including paint,reducers,etc...Caused or helped a fire at home,the insurance would not cover it anyways, unless you insured as a business with an approved booth,fireproof storage,etc...the bastards always want to get out of paying!I'm afraid to call my insurance guy,have you called?Any info to easy my mind?Jim
 
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flamethrower

New member
I talked to my agent directly about it and he said as long as it's not a business they would pay if everything was built to current code (heating, ventilation, plumbing, etc.) He said that the jobs I do have to be on a "donation" basis. So people can donate the money, then I can donate a paint job. Fine line I guess, but if the insurance man is happy, then I'm happy. I have yet to do a job for someone else and until I get this darn thing built it's all moot. But it shouldn't be too much longer. I'm framing the walls now.
 
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Ultra Al

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Go to the Eagle equipment and turner equipment websites. You can get a professional cross draft spray booth big enough to paint a car in for under 4 grand with a single phase motor (they come with 3 phase the single phase is 100 extra) Thats what Im getting as soon as i can stay home long enough to use it Check it out Al
 
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dabien310

Guest
This may be a dumb question, but how do I find a paint booth in my area that I could rent? I have no clue where to loook.
 
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bek

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as for these spray booths made from 6 mil plastic you can buy sheets of this with zip open panels for acess in and out they are used to seal off rooms in homes during demo etc to keep dust down think home depot may sell them this may help anyone going that semi temporary route of a spray booth
 
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dabien310

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Thanks for the info. If I start painting more I will probably build one. However, I was wondering if anyone knew how to find a paint booth i could rent.
 
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Ultra Al

New member
If you have a trade school or jr college where you live that offers a body work class you might be able work out a deal for Sat or after class hours.
 
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flamethrower

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dabien310, where you from? I know there is one that rents time out in Tacoma. Where ever you are, there might be one. Go to the local voc schools and ask a body shop instructor if he/she knows where there's a rental booth.
 
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bek

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try making frieends with a body shop owner or painter /bodyman ,etc lots of them are into bikes,cars,etc maybe trade off some booth time for something you can do around the shop hey be a helper for a few hours maybe pick up a few extra tips use your imagination and something will become available /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif
 
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AirFlow

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Any way you can post or send me who you purchased your system(s) from.

Thanks

G. Hunter
 
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dabien310

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I live in Long Island, NY. I am currently taking a pinstriping class and will ask my instructor if he knows anywhere.
 
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