PPG code for Lambo 8B8B Arancio Argos anyone?

[hawkeyemike]

Hello,
On Monday I'm taking my motorcycle tank in to have it painted to match the orange/red pearl of the 2012 Lamborghini Aventador. The Lambo paperwork says the paint is 8B8B Arancio Argos and it lists this color under the pearls. Lambo have made several oranges that say "Arancio" in the name, and I want to be sure I get the red/orange that is Arancio Argos 8B8B. Could someone help me with a PPG code and some tips to be sure I communicate well to the painter?
Many thanks,
Mike

 

[Wydir]

This paint can only be mixed in either global or Envirobase(waterborne) on my PPG system it says the manufacture code is 5012M
Example in Envirobase

ARANCIO ARGOS

2011

Body

AVENTADOR LP700-4

No

5012M

LAM.*0117

LAM.*0117/1 Basecoat
price code C
1 pint $76.95

LAM.*0117/2 Midcoat
Price Code B
1 pint $62.95

 

[hawkeyemike]

That has to be it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Mike

 

[Wydir]

no problem any time.

 

[TAZ]

Good job Wydir

 

[hawkeyemike]

Quick update:
Got the tank back and it looks salmon and orange... not red or red/orange at all. The painter said the second step was really tricky. When testing it he said the second step changed the base from red to orange to gold depending upon how much he put on and at what psi. So what I got was no where near what I expected...

This painting is all magic to me, and this time I lost out. Need to find someone else who can make it work, or give up.

 

[Wydir]

What paint system did your painter Use?

do you have a pic of the tank?



I would guess your painter is inexperienced

 

[TAZ]

Possibly he didn't put enough of the mid coat on.
If it's supposed to look like the color in this pic, this looks more orange than a red orange. Maybe this isn't the color though.

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[hawkeyemike]

The painter has been at it for longer than I've been alive. He did two tanks for me. One was a white pearl with a red speed-block style stripe piped in black (kinda retro moto GP racing). He nailed that one.

The lambo color did not come off right. The second stage was pretty tricky, he said, and it looked good to him in the end. The color is not right though.

 

[hawkeyemike]

That is the color I was after, TAZ. Often pics show the color looking a little more red than this, but under the brightest light it does look orange. This is the red-est red lambo is putting on the car.

The painter called me several times as he experimented, and at one point he said the color was acting like a chameleon color - which I don't think it is. It's a pearl though.

I think the painter is vastly experianced in many ways. Perhaps this time he just got caught out. Not knowing much about painting, I thought it would be easier than this. If I can get some good shots I'll post it (bike is in FL being assembled and I'm in KS). Time to move on with the first tank he did, and then decide what to do later with the salmon tank (newly named by the bike's builder).

 

[Antilles]

I found this color code on Autocolor, even did some tests. It only showed me two layers, a main orange layer and the second is exact same pigments like in the first layer but added pearls and more "strong red", problem is that after the tests it doesn't look as spectacular as I saw in all the videos (even saw one in Italy live a few months ago), am I doing something wrong? isn't it supposed to be sprayed two main layers with normal dilution and the second layer (pearls) with 1/1 dilution also two layers? Might worth mentioning that I did the test on an Opel Astra fender. In normal lighting it only looks sort of redish orange...when direct sunlight hits the gold and yellow pearls show up making it even more orange. I think it is supposed to act almost like a chameleon color, wasn't it supposed to be more redish without sunlight? I tested putting more red (adding to the original code), even spraying more second layers (which have more red in them), I went all the way up to 8 layers but that wasn't right either, adding red to main layer didn't change anything (at least not visible) and spraying more pearl layers just messed it up (in a really bad way). Any ideas?

 

[hawkeyemike]

I had a painter tell me this PPG color is a "euro" mix and requires paint system spray gear that most U.S. painters don't have owed to the expense of it. He said this paint will only work if sprayed at the precise PSI, etc., Lambo uses. I gave up and went with the white tank. The orange one looks so bad, so salmon puke like, that I boxed it and put it in storage.

 

[Antilles]

I am in Europe...what kind of "gear" are we talking about?! I doubt Lamborghini used Nitrotherm, even if they did in US is way cheaper than it is here (or easier to buy, 'round here costs something like 18-20000 Euros).
I guess I'll just take a chance, the only other paint job I would use on this car is Candy Apple Red...but I'm quite sure I'm unable to do it, first of all I have no idea how to actually make the paint and how to spray it (I'm a newbie), and second even if I'd hire someone to do it (not sure I know anyone who did it before) I doubt he would have enough patience to spray it. Where I live there is an extreme lack of passion for painting, or maybe just interest, I don't know anyone interested/passionate/obsessed enough of paintojbs and colors. You said something about PSI, any idea on how much? I don't think PSI is as important as angle of spraying....

 

[regalpaint]

I had a designer tell me this PPG shade is a "euro" mix and needs colour program apply equipment that most U.S. artists don't have due to the price of it. He said this colour will only perform if applied at the accurate PSI, etc., Lambo uses. I provided up and went with the white-colored container. The red one looks so bad, so trout puke like, that I encased it and put it kept in storage space.

 

[spanny]

So did anyone manage to get this colour right?? And is the 8B8B the right code for it and not ppg0117??

 

[spanny]

Max Meyer 5012M and Lambo colour is as below.... directly off an Aventador this morning


Paint now ordered from the supplier so will keep you guys updated

 

[TAZ]

Great to hear!

:bigokay:

 

[Wydir]

Wow, I posted that same information almost two years ago............lol