Realistic Flame-Different Method

NightShiftX

New member
With all my respects to Mike Lavalle who I think the first rendering realistic flames or making them so popular, I believe his flames are not so realistic. He paints awesome flames and I do love his work very much. His flames are kinda stylized and therefore creates a blasting realistic effect over the viewers. I carefully studied hundreds of flame scenes. I recorded fire news shown on TVs, rented DVDs with plenty of fire scenes. Froze every scene and analyzed them second by second. However none of these scenes ever looked like Lavalle work. Actually I painted a HD tank following his method and I was able to create an exact copy of his work. This is another problem cause they are easy to copy if you know what to do.
This week I painted another tank but this time followed my own instincts. Though I photographed every step, I can not copy it again myself. It looks amazingly real. You get lost within the fire and almost feel the hot when you look at it from the closest distance. Here is the instructions for the real flames from hell to the interested ones:

1-Base coat must be a dark color for the best results. Black, deep blue, deep purple etc...All paints I used are auto acrylics .Badger 100 G-Fine Tip airbrush.
2-Mix very reddish orange with top coat clear at 1:1 ratio. Over reduce it.( Name it Color 1)
3-Very lightly mist the orange over the area where you want the flames. Do not cover whole area. Spray very loose and thin cloud patterns. Partial clouds on a fine summer sky. Nothing similar to flames. Leave a lot of area uncovered. This will be the map
4-Now mix dark yellow-topcoat clear-reddish orange at 1:3:2 ratio. Over reduce it. (Color 2)
5-Very lightly mist Color 2 over your previous clouds. Do not cover all but stay inside of clouds. Now It must look like light orange clouds with darker orange edges. You don not want any solid look. You must hint the dark base coat thorough the clouds. Name the figure Layer 1.
6-(Optional for additional depth : ) Apply 2 thin coats of clear and wet sand it with 2000
7-Forget whatever you have done until now. Imagine you have painted no figure there and redo step 2 and 3. This time spray more clouds the bottom (where the flames will start). Name it layer 2.
8-Using Color 1 add some loose fire licks to your clouds both in the layer 1 and 2. Now the pattern slightly will look like a fire.
9-Using color 2 , highlight the interiors of all the freshly painted Color 1 areas like step 5.
10-Optional like Step 6.
11-Lightly spray dark yellow ( Color 3) over all the areas painted with Color 2.Again use cloud pattern. Do not cover all the Color 2 area. You want Color 2 visible around edges and some centers. Mostly blend dark yellow with Color 2. Go thicker and defined at the bottom of the fire.
12-Over reduce dark yellow and spray a couple of transparent smoke-like flames and curves to the areas where there is no figure. Tighter at bottom. Spray some very small stray licks away from the main flames.
13- Get a light yellow (Color 4) and highlight some edges and centers of Color 3 painted areas. Blend it. Give a lot more definition. Add several narrow and thick curves around Color 3 areas. Add some small dots at the tips.
These will be flashes later.
14-Optional like step 6.
15-Get a very light yellow ( Color 5) and highlight several of Color 4 areas irregularly. Now be very precise. Blend Color 5 at the centers, go thicker outer. Spray Color 5 to the bottom generously but opposite at the tips.
16-Spray 1 coat of clear. If the figure looks too light colored in general, add some dark orange to your clear. This will bring life to the whole figure.
17-Claim 1500-2000 bucks for a tank job. If you have done right until this point, your client will pay dearly , do not worry /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohwell.gif
 
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seedeucer

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Ok. After that doctoral thesis you have to post pictures now. ; 0 )
 
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aircooled

Guest
I agree,I learn better by seeing, reading alone doesn't help me understand, only confuses me. maby you coule e-mail the pics to me, that way i will understand the steps more clairly.
 
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TAZ

Guest
Sounds 'realistic' good to me!
Looking forward to seeing the pics!
Thanks for the step by step!
Can't post them, email them to me, and I'll get them up.
 
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TAZ

Guest
NightShiftX sent me some pics. They do look *very* nice. The pics he emailed were before clearing. Maybe he will post them once they are cleared. We will be adding another program onto the FB in which all members can create and have thier own albums.
I should have it up in a week or two.
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alienboy

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I gotta see this man.....I've been waiting for weeks now. I check this post at least 800 times a day to see the pics. Please post pics, my wife is mad at me for checking this so much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbutt.gif
 

NightShiftX

New member
I tried to post the pics at the new photo section yesterday.It worked allright first and I posted an old project.But when I tried to post real flame pics It stopped working.
I will post the pics at the old projects section once Scott correct the problems.
NightShiftX
 

NightShiftX

New member
Finally.I uploaded 2 pics to the "Past Projects" section.
The pictures can not reflect real color,depth and gloss.Sorry.
NightShiftX
 

flamethrower

New member
Nice job Shifty! Those sporty flames look awesome. I'm sure they look even better up close and in person. Keep up the good work.

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Burnt

New member
That is a real sweet job . I am going to try that myself real soon. Hope it turns out half as good. Good work
 

rex

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Very nice rendition,big time!!!Thanks for the pix,and thanks Scott for the pic area to post them! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bigokay.gif
 
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Tenacious C

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I added a couple of pics of something I'm working on now in the current projects section.

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