tried true flames..

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FiFdYnUtZ

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went down to our shop and played around on some cardboard a couple days ago...lmk what you think! i didnt have any candies so i just went with white and a dark blue and black backround...my very first attempt at this..

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/FiFdYnUtZ/DSCF0589.jpg
my dad photoshopped in some orange candies on a sideways pic^^


please critique this...i want to start trying it on customers things etc...soon i plan to flame my toolbox!!!!!lol!!!!! but i need to know what im doing wrong and need direction on the candies! thanks!!!

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martin3294

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True flames are as the name suggests, they are supposed to be lifelike. Looking at your flames, lets be honest about it, they don't resemble real flames. I think your main problem lies in using a masking device, you have really sharp edges on all of your flames. Your layout also isn't as flames would be. Try to layout your flames first of all by drawing them out before you take an airbrush to them, for example draw out a traditional hotrod style flame, then use this to add some licks and other shapes to them to build up a more realistic fire. Try to use more freehand as true flames are random and not uniform. Another point is by using freehand you will create a softer flame edge rather than a hard edge like yours is, this overspray will help your candies punch out the flames. Use a mask to highlight some dark areas of the flames but dont overuse a mask. When filling in your flames with your base yellow try to follow the flames with your airbrush in the direction of the flame and don't fill in solid, rather use a sweeping motion and not fully filled in. This will help when you put your candies over also. Hope this has helped you a bit with flames, try them again using these methods and you will produce a much better true flame. Good luck
Martin
 
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martin3294

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One more important point is to extend each flame more, yours resembles more of a barbed wire effect because your length of each flame is short and then you have started another flame directly proceding the last flame. Good true flames are pretty close to tradional hotrod flames. That's how we do them at our shop and we havn't had any complaints. Just keep adding to the hotrod design bit by bit, when your happy with your layout then take hold of your airbrush and trace them out with your brush.\Wipe away your chalk or stabilo and off you go start filling in.
 
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hoss

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when i was practicing i looked at a lot of pics. i found the flame licks that i liked and i tried to imulate them. this helped me understand what works.

not too shabby for a first try. remember to practice on small things a tool box is a great idea. i think you might be using too much stencel. try to free up some airbrush strokes and make them flow from one lick to the other..

remember go from hott at the bottom (thicker paint) and go to cool at the top. more sparce in your flames.

i'm definitly not an expert, they look pretty good though.
 
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Ultra Al

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Check out this picture I took and use as a reference. Note how the fire is highest and brightest at the point of the most fuel and oxygen. You can make this anywhere on your substrate but the rest of the fire has to be proportionate. Also note the transparences going on and the shading. There are a few hard lines there (i.e. stenciled) but not many. The fire has a natural rhytym alsthough it is random. Hope this helps. AL
 

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LudicrousSpeed

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I haven't ried to do true flames, but other than the stencil technique, I like the way they are transluscent and "ghosty". The edges look like what I think they ought to. Keep up the good work and keep us posted!
 
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