Urethane Kandy or Kandy Koncentrate?

[sw engineering]

I was curious what the preferred HOK Kandy product was of everybody, UK=Urethane Enamel or KK=Kandy Koncentrate?
I use KK's mixed w/SG-100. Usually mixed to roughly a 1:5 ratio unreduced. Depends on what I'm doing which is a great beni of the KK's.
Does anybody use the HOK UK Kandy? I have never used the UK's and I was wondering how they are compared to the KK's w/SG-100,(besides UK using a catalyst). I have a relatively large job to do so I don't mind buying a quart of UK and have to worry about wasting it.
Basically what I'm doing is spraying a white base with PBC-Limetime Green basecoat with a (KK or UK)-Spanish Gold Kandy flames. The kandy gold should lighten the green alittle to give it that nice brightly highlighted ghost effect (test panel is flashing as I type).
So would using UK on this job be better than KK? UK would have less build up I imagine which would be one plus. Is the UK a "deeper" kandy than KK/SG-100?

thanks for any input

 

[sw engineering]

thanks dirt...
I called a buddy of mine that just started using UK and he said the job I described was the perfect situation to give it a shot. He basically said the same thing you said, fast color achieving ,low build up. I'm going to try it.

In your experience what would you say the ratio of KK to SG100 is when it starts to have adhesion problems? I've never pushed it to that point and am curious.

 

[DDG]

I wouldn't go with more than 20% KK to a reduced
SG100. You might be able to go to 25% but why push it. I don't know how you do it but you should reduce the clear then add up to 20% KK of your choice. I've never really went any more than that.
Think of the SG100 as a "binder" for the KK.
Kinda like a balancing clear in a urethane sys.
Hope this helps.
Dirt

 

[sw engineering]

i spray it the same way. I reduce SG-100 and leave it in a cup. then I just take out what I need and drop in about what a posted before 1:5 or 20% of KK. Always worked fine for me too.

 

[DDG]

I guess it depends on how many coats you are using to achieve your color. UK can be up to six
coats to get color you want with less build than
the SG100. Plus HOK doesn't recommend more than 4 coats of SG100 and if you put too much KK in it you could get adhesion problems. You can also add KK to UK to strengthen it to use less coats.
In my exp. I used 5 coats to get color with the burgandy over silver and cinder red base. As far as being deeper, I see no differnce in using one or the other. Just be careful as the UK has a longer flash time than the KK/SG100...read the directions and follow them!! Personally I would go with the UK. Hope this can give you some help.
Dirt

 

[rex]

Dumb question but humor me because I haven't played with HOK yet.You guys are saying the UK is thinner than KK in SG100.Why is the home brew so much thicker if it's supposed to be more of a base instead of a topcoat,or is the KK considered a catalized base?

 

[ezrider]

The UK is actually Urethane clear with KK or Kandy Koncentrate in it. How is there less build in UK than KK in the SG100? is it being reduced corectly? is it being sprayed correctly ? yes it can be made stronger in the SG100 but you can only spray 4 coats of it, only 3 if doing artwork on top of it 1 coat should only be SG100 with out the KK so there is no scratching of the candy.And yes the candy effect is be deeper using UK than the SG100 with the KK. KK can also be added to the UK so it is stronger, meaning less coats. i think i am a little confused now also

 

[sw engineering]

i understand you ez...

thanks
I have been talking to more people and they all pretty much say UK is the way to go for anything other than airbrushing.
I've got a qt on the way...we'll see