i think theyre both badass, and if you pay attention enough, occ started doing their own frames and tanks, now they have a company to manufacture them for them, so that bikes can be done quickly. theres aparently more of a demand than they can handle so far. they also have the big metal working shop and i have seen where they build a lot of stuff for themselves. and a lot of awesome bikes come out of occ. plus, there is no way to do everything yourself. it would be cool if they could do it all themselves, but there are very few shops that are able to afford to do that. now jesse, hes a pimp, period. his **** is cool, but not quite as out there as paul jr. does. honestly, they both have their own ways to do stuff, and i think its cool just the way their doin it.